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Topic: Alternate facts=cherry picking=confirmation bias

🔱 started this discussion 1.5 year ago #1,661

Here's an example.

Say the unemployment rate is below 5%.

That sounds good.

Okay the number might be a fact...


Massive numbers of people are out of the job market now having stopped looking for work and that artificially lowers the unemployment rate as it is based on those seeking work.

This is also a fact.

It is an alternate fact. AKA cherry picking... It is where confirmation bias comes from.

Politicians will use the side of this that helps their cause during campaigns. They will omit the alternate facts that don't support their cause in favor of the preferred facts that do. Regular old people do it all the time too in day to day living.

These are old concepts and that is what this is all about.

The word "alternate" has a couple of definitions. part of the definition is "mutual" or "reciprocal"... (look it up)...

So ends the lesson

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1.5 year ago, 5 minutes later[Top] #5,172

I don't think the idea of looking at the unemployment number under greater detail and saying for instance a lot of the people included in it are retired or not looking for work is an alternate fact, it's just looking into things deeper.

Alternate facts based on what Conway said is just saying something with no basis in reality and calling it a fact 'because I think so'.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1.5 year ago, 4 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[Top] #5,173

> it's just looking into things deeper.


OR it's just a BS way for the Govt to skew their numbers.

They do the complete opposite when they're tallying up their Stats on the sheer amount of homeless, hungry and special needs.They're only too happy to inflate those numbers to expand the budgets for those things.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1.5 year ago, 4 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[Top] #5,174

That's why media people and individuals need to go over numbers more thoroughly to prevent them from just using 'fuzzy math'.

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